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Border Collies
Wed 23-Sep-09
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Michelle from Oregon
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I have a border collie (Zoe) that is kept as a pet, so she is crazy from not having a "job". I walk her and keep her as active as I can, but she comes into the house and licks the walls and windows that she can reach.
I have tried distractions (playtime, bones stuffed with treats) and bitter apple on the surfaces that she licks, but she persists. I know the real solution is not to keep a working dog as a pet, but does anyone have any suggestions?

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Wed 23-Sep-09
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Ever thought of loaning her out? My flat coat retreiver, used to earn his keep when he was alive, working as a gun dog. Obviously this is seasonal work.

Having just googled it, it suggests that because dogs get bored, they get OCD?!?

Maybe speak to the vet

Thu 24-Sep-09
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Michelle from Oregon
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SOL, that is such a easy answer, but I hate to admit I never thoght of it. That is what happens when you are too close to the problem. Where I live is right in the middle of sheep country too. The sad thing is I don't know any sheep farmers. Do you think that they would be leary since she has never been out with sheep?

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Thu 24-Sep-09
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Are you thinking sheep dog work for her? if so - Talk to a farmer see what they say. Has she ever been near any cattle, sheep? Be careful,any dog that worries a farmers stock can be destroyed in this country. Make sure any attempts to go near sheep are with the farmers permission and ALWAYS ON THE LEAD.

Other wise speak to your vet as to where, you could go for dog training for Gun dogs. my dog started this as a pup. Raw eggs in the mouth to train him not to mark the bird and basic retrieval of items. Then my cousin took him and sat with him on the back of the land rover, whilst a shoot was on to get him used to the guns.

But this all started as soon as he had the vacinations to go out of the house.

Otherwise get a local teenager to walk the dog forever for you to tire her out... other than that, any problems with animals should always be refered to a vet, as licking things could be due to any number of things including needing their teeth cleaning.

Fri 25-Sep-09
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Michelle from Oregon
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Oh yes SOL, I live in the middle of sheep country, and I know the rules. Loose dogs don't live long here, those pregnant ewes are way more expensive than my dogs. I wouldn't presume to walk into a field without the farmer knowing, and especially with a untried dog. That would be very foolish.
Gun dog training? Hmm, another good thought.
As far as the vet goes, Zoe gets her yearly check-up, so teeth are taken care of.
I do remember when my Mother and I went to pick a puppy (and ended up with Zoe) that all of the puppies in the run were taking turns barking at us and then would run back to the dog house in the run to lick at the plywood siding. They had worn away the layers at the bottom of the dog house from licking. I should of had a clue back then!

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Sat 26-Sep-09
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Hi Michelle… we also have a pet border collie called Basil and he is also very active. I usually walk him with a neighbours dog called Syd who is a cross between a corgi and a border collie… Syd also has many of the border collie characteristics and by walking them together and each having their own favourite ball that comes on walks with them, they can run, catch, play and chase and generally have a great time. I am also lucky to be able to go over to fields where I can safely (no livestock around) let them run loose. I can be out with them for as long as an hour twice a day (with a shorter walk or two in between) By the time they come back from their walks they are both puffed out and glad of a rest (me too!!)

I guess the key is lots and lots of exercise and stimulation. When at home I often play with Basil in the garden a few throws of his ball and hiding it so he has to seek it out which he finds great fun… and also Basil has an area in the garden where he is allowed to dig and he has a grand time with that… he is trained only to dig in that area so I don't have to worry about the rest of the garden.

Also another friend of mine has a border collie and takes him to agility classes which are greatly enjoyed. I do think however S.O.L has some fantastic ideas which could help the situation with Zoe.

I wish you well….

Love Jane xxx

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Sat 26-Sep-09
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Hi Jane,

Thanks for the advice! That is the great thing about the forum, so many great people looking at the same problem from different perspecives!

Thanks again-

Michelle

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Wed 14-Oct-09
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WHAT about dog agility classes? If there are any near you?

Wed 14-Oct-09
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Yes, there are agility classes near me, and that would be a very good solution.

Perhaps I should explain a little more........

My husband and I live with my mother in a duplex type situation, we have 2 dogs (Lab-Dixie & Chesapeake-Honey) and she has 2 dogs (Zoe and a Aussie sheepdog-Annie). My mom has recently fell and broke her hip (can you hear my scream from here? ) so where before my mom was fiddling around some all day with Zoe (taking her outside and playing with her) now she can't make it into the back yard since there is too many steps yet for her. SO, the major part of dog entertainment i.e. walking and play has fallen to my husband and I. And since we both work full time and my full time job has me traveling more often than not, Zoe will get screwy (well, more than usual).

I know, I know, "What is someone who is never home doing with 4 dogs? Thats not fair to the dogs!" When Dan and I got our dogs I had a job that had me home every night, and I had my Mom to help with the doggy day care part while I was at work. Just like a lot of things, if I could have seen into the future I might not have adopted all of my dogs, but since they were rescue dogs and I know our life together is better than the one they had, I try to console myself with that. Actually now that I think of it, the only dog we "chose" was Zoe, since even the Aussie sheepdog was a rescue too.

And I also come from the school of thought that once you take on a animal they are yours for life, so you better make it work. Hopefully I will find something different to do for work, and my mom will get better soon.

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Thu 15-Oct-09
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I wanted to share with everyone the brainstorm I had yesterday.

I was working away and thinking about Zoe, trying to breakdown our problem. What will she play with? Well, laser pointers, flashlights, sprinklers, and water pistols. Since water indoors isn't a good idea, I turned to the light portion of the equasion. Laser pointers and flashlights, hmmm.......

Then a picture poped into my head. A shop that sells all sorts of wonderfully tacky things that teenagers like, posters, room decorations, lights.......

I bought Zoe a disco light.

I need to get a camera and see if I can take a picture of her chasing the lights, I almost fell on the floor laughing. Difficult shot since it has to be in a dark room so you can see the lights.

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Fri 30-Apr-10
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ZOE UPDATE!!!!!!

Hey all, I thought all of those folks that responded with suggestions would like to know that Zoe has a job! And she thought it up on her own.

I have been feeding birds for some time now, and as will happen when you do that, we have squirel that visits us now. Zoe hasn't been happy about that for some time, barking and kicking up a fuss when the squirel comes to visit.

Well, I opened the front door a few days ago, not knowing that the squirel was visiting, and she took off like a shot after him, and sent him to the top of a Douglas fir tree. Now that she has that figured out, she doesn't bark like she did before, but waits by the door hoping that she'll be let out to sneak up on him.  

I hope she doesn't catch him, I don't know what she'd do if she did!

I also wanted to add that my Mother is getting around much better now, and Zoe and the other dogs are back up to their regular amount of walks.

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Fri 30-Apr-10
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A very intelligent creature you have there, I hope she keeps it up. Good news about your Mother, I hope she continues to improve.

I'll try that again!

Mon 3-May-10
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Big_Laugh nice one, Michelle. Good for Zoe.

Our three Min Pins are hunters. The breed was originally developed for ratting, I guess.When Inca suspects a squirrel is about, she waits silently inside the dog flap. Their sight is quite poor but I guess she can detect movement. Then it's an explosion through the flap to chase the intruder. They have caught several pigeons while they were waddling about on the garden. Pigeons are slow to take flight and are relatively easy targets.

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Michelle, can I borrow Zoe to sort out my BASTARD squirrels pleaase?

Danny, if any of your dogs fancy a weekend away hunting wood pigeons in my garden they would be more than welcome.

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Not highjacking but as this is about Collies I have just sat down and noticed that my Border Collie has one ear that is swollen with liquid, it happened to the pig once any idea's folks.

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