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Tue 20-Mar-12
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Hattie
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How sad the others attacked him. Good thing you have him inside with you. A little & often is the way to go with food. You are doing your absolute best for him I know....I hope he makes it.  I worried about him all the time the forum was down.

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Tue 20-Mar-12
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I found an online poultry vet, it was expensive but he said he was sure Boris has lymphoid leukosis, there is no treatment and culling is recommended in commercial flocks. I cannot do that so am keeping him fed and hydrated as he will take it, keeping him warm and safe. The cats have a look now and then but are not bothering him. He is still eating a little fresh sweet corn which does at least give him some water too. It is just a case of waiting now. The others have all swapped to following Bubble now, sad really. It is just as well I do not have sheep or pigs as I dare say I would have lambs and piglets in front of the Esse!

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Tue 20-Mar-12
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Aly I am so sorry about the news. Unfortunately it sounds like potentially bad news for the rest of your flock as he may have passed this on to the hens (who could pass it on to their chicks). You will have to keep a close eye on them. Personally I am afraid I would not risk this, much as I love my birds. It is too easily spread & as you say you are surrounded by neighbours who keep chickens.

It is a tough call & I know how upset you must be.....my heart goes out to you ! It is a situation which all us poultry keepers dread.  big_hug  big_hug

 

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I am keeping an eye on all the others but no signs so far. Boris came from another expat I didn't know so may have had it in him already. All the eggs from the last 10 days will have been fertilized by the other cockeral so I hope it hasn't spread. My chickens do not come into contact with any other chickens but wild birds are always around. Generally all the rest are very healthy so all I can do is hope. If others show any sign of developing this I will have to get someone in to cull them  or get the vet in as I cannot do it myself!cry

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God, Aly, how awful for you, I'm so sorry to read this big_hug

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wave  Oh Aly, I am very much hoping for a positive result for you.  Anything else would be such a heartbreak.  big_hug

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Everyone else has bright red combs and wattles and as that was the first sign I saw with Boris that is what I am concentrating on. It also occurred to me that I have 2 light Sussex hens I adopted from an expat who didn't want them. They seem fine but the virus has come from somewhere if that is what is. I am still not convinced as the online vet also said it sounded like Boris was in kidney failure but couldn't say if that was part of the virus or a seperates thing. I have now subscribed to practical poultry magazine to increase my knowledge. I have dealt with this mostly the way I would care for a sick person but would feel happier with more knowledge. I will also not bring in any other birds from unknown sources. Once I am happy the others are clear I will use the incubator to grow the flock.

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Wed 21-Mar-12
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Boris is still with us but I have arranged for a friend to do the deed later today as he is in a pitiable state, not eating at all now. I am a wimp I know but I have never killed anything knowingly and couldn't do it.
Everyone else is bright and perky this morning but I will keep a close eye on them for a week or so. I am thinking more and more the online vet was wrong with his diagnosis, the more I research the illness the less Boris fits it. I feel sure he is older than I thought and is in kidney failure.

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So sorry Aly big_hug.  It does sound as if you're doing the right thing, you've been taking good care of him in his last few days and making sure his last hours are safe and warm ones and he is being loved, but he's giving up the struggle and needs to go now.  Bless you dear, you're being very brave big_hugbig_hug

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A difficult decision on the one hand, Aly, but possibly the correct one logically.

Well done. Boris should not suffer any longer if he is showing no signs of recovery.

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Aly, I know this is so hard for you but I am sure it is the right thing to do. I never find these decisions easy. If you are pretty sure he has kidney disease do you think you could be brave enough to look at his kidneys (well away from the rest of him) to see if you can see any abnormalities in them? That is what I would do, just to check my judgement. Or perhaps your friend could do it?  

You have done all you could to pull him through. I really feel for you¦.

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wave Aly, no matter how distressing this will be for you, you know that you are making the right decision for Boris.  You have given him the best possible care you could but now the kindest thing you can do for him is to let him go.  I agree with Nadine that it would be a good idea to examine the kidneys.  That might help you come to terms with it all.

Lots of big_hug  and best wishes are on their way to you.  I shall be thinking of you today.  big_hug

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Oh Aly, I'm sorry. big_hug

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