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FAO Odelle
Mon 26-Aug-13
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Hello Odelle

I hope you (or indeed TA!) won't mind me saying something in response to your last post in the Cooking thread, only it appears TA is no longer online (names stay in the 'Currently online' bit at the bottom for quite some time after people leave, if they don't actually log off) and I wouldn't want you to feel you're being ignored.

Firstly, the pm facility on here appears to be broken, and has been for quite some time, so that may be why you haven't heard anything.

I don't really know why you think there's a problem, except perhaps you're wondering why TA has altered some of your posts?  Obviously, I don't know why she has either, but I would hazard a guess that perhaps she's shortening the bit where you quote posts from other members.  Sometimes quoting a long post makes things harder to read, or makes posts look messy, or even takes up so much space on a page that it creates a new page in the thread causing others to have to jump back onto previous pages in order to read earlier posts (if you see what I mean).  When you're replying to a previously quoted post, you could when you bring up the quoted post, delete all of the quote except for the bit you actually mean to reply to.  I'm not explaining this very well, sorry, I do hope you understand what I mean.  And sometimes it isn't necessary to actually include the quoted post at all, you could just refer to the poster by name.

I used to be a moderator on a couple of forums, so I'm guessing that's what TA is doing, based on my experience.  I hope I haven't offended you (or TA!), that's not my intention at all, I just want to help.  Please don't feel bad Odelle, there's no need, we're all friends here big_hug

Sue

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Mon 26-Aug-13
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big_hug  Bless You my lovely lady and friend, I do wish that it was true what you're trying to say to me.  However, I have been on here for many years now and have noticed that Toni for no apparant reason started ignoring anything & everything that I posted, whic is why I stopped visiting the site at all for about a year, so this is not new, editing which I totally understand, but being down right rude is completely different.

After the initial things that were ignored I did intend to stop again, then I thought, "Why should I loose out", by doing what she'd like me to as I did before?  Especially, as there's so many genuine, caring, wonderful people on here that go out of their way to be helpful, friendly, good people that I would miss so much, so I'm not going to "Go Away", for no reason to please Toni, regardless of her position, I don't care who does what or what they do or have got, only enjoy friends that I've made on here.

Thank you ever so much you've made me feel so much better from my actually, "Telling you", I'm not paranoid, my motto in life is 'If you can't be nice, don't be nasty",  "Life's too short" and "Live & Let live".

Please for me if you have time at some point, you scroll through the different posts, I can guarantee that you will not find one from Toni going back years, not even to say Thank you!  Un-believable I know yet true, you can see for yourself, I've tried so hard with her it's like aargh.

I'm going to try not to let it bother me and carry on as usual, as if nothing has happened, we'll see if my mentioning it will make any difference.

Many thanks to you for your meaning full words, you're much appreciated rose big_hug

All my love and very best wishes, Odelle x smile  

Mon 26-Aug-13
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Dear Odelle, incidentally where does that name come from, sounds French, so pretty. my daughter has a French name Ghislaine, did not know at the time , it was an old Norman name, traced out Tree Back, and we come from old Normans!  What I meant to say was, I sent you a pm, obviously you did not get it, giving  you lots of hugs!hugs, hugs, hugs. Soo, you are Sooper!¬

Mon 26-Aug-13
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Sue I had a pm from Ambersparkle (Christine) yesterday, it wasn't meant for me but I answered , I don't know if she got the reply.

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Mon 26-Aug-13
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wave  Right, enough is enough.  This is all totally ridiculous and so not what we are used to on this Forum.  First of all, Odelle if you have a problem with Toni, I believe it should have been handled between the two of you and not treated as public, especially when accusations are being made.  I have been on this Forum a long time and at no time before has anything like this occurred.  Indeed we have always prided ourselves that we are a great bunch of people who can conduct ourselves with dignity.

I have no idea if Toni has a problem with anyone on here and quite frankly this has really upset me.  Very often I do not respond to comments, but it does not mean I do not care or indeed am annoyed.  I certainly have never intended to be rude to anyone just because I did not come back with a comment.  

Please Odelle if you care about us all, which I know you do, try and sort this out with Toni privately. Toni has tried so hard since Fiona and Danny have not been here,  to keep us all together and I think she deserves our respect and not our public criticism.  

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Mon 26-Aug-13
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I agree with that sentiment Danuta.

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Tue 27-Aug-13
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danast said:

wave  Right, enough is enough.  This is all totally ridiculous and so not what we are used to on this Forum.  

Good Morning,  Thankyou, you do know how much I do care about people and do enjoy being on this site and appreciate everyone, enjoy it thoroughly which is why I don't wish there to be any bad feelings or to hurt anyone, you've known me for a long time, so I would think that you know me well enough to understand that I didn't intend to annoy, upset, make anything public, this I tried to send as a private message, in the hope that we could perhaps 'clear the air', which is why I apologised if I had done anything to upset Toni, to tell me so that all could be 'put right' with-out it escalating all out of proportion, which it appears to have done so judging by your reaction.

With regards to "our public criticism" I agree totally, however could you not send a private message to me.  We do all deserve respect, not public criticism.  Toni has done excellent in keeping everything in order, has worked very hard and she is much appreciated, by myself and all concerned I'm sure.  I couldn't do what she has done.   

Sorry, I shall have to get back to you as having been up all night, I am unable to express myself very well.  Cherio for now, Odelle x.

Tue 27-Aug-13
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Danuta, thank you for putting it into words for us.

I have to say I was shocked at reading Odelle's post, as I too have never experienced anything like this before, and shouldn't have to.

I was shocked in two ways - firstly that Odelle would even think that, and secondly that Toni has never shown any animosity - and why should she .... we are all friends.

danast said:

Toni has tried so hard since Fiona and Danny have not been here,  to keep us all together and I think she deserves our respect and not our public criticism.  

 

Toni shouldn't have to do this - it is to Danny & Fiona to keep it all together, not Toni, so, as Danuta said "respect, not criticism".

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Tue 27-Aug-13
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Not sure about anyone else, but my PM doesn't work, and hasn't worked for some time, so not sure if PM's are possible! brightsparklystuff

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Tue 27-Aug-13
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my PM worked as christine says she got the reply I sent to her pm

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Tue 27-Aug-13
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That's interesting, Eileen - why doesn't mine then?   big_laugh   big_laugh

Mine has a block menu sitting over the message, so I can't read the message, and there's lots of blank spaces where messages used to be! All very screwed up! confused

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I too was shocked at Odelle's reply.

Odelle, did you not properly read my post at the top of this thread?  I mentioned that the private message (pm) facility doesn't work properly and hasn't for some time - some people seem to be able to access it, others don't, so I imagine that's why you haven't received or been able to send PM's.

With the greatest respect, you are the one who has made this public and has made some very specific criticisms of Toni, and I think you can see that we are all quite upset by this.  I made the post to you as I wanted to help you, but wish I hadn't now as I am feeling really very bad about being the catalyst for all this upset and making things worse.

I did also say that it is not necessary to quote everything, but you seem to be choosing to ignore that.

Several of us on here are good friends and have a lot of contact outside of the forum, and I think I can safely say that none of us would ever think of Toni as rude.  She isn't.

I am just so sorry that I tried to help and have caused all this upset to come about.  This Forum is just not like that.

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Tue 27-Aug-13
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Er, excuse me, Sue (big_laugh) - I don't think for one moment that you should feel bad.

I think you did the right thing - as Toni is not online to defend herself - and I expect others think the same as I do.

The post needed a response I feel, and yours was - again, in my view - judged correctly.

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Tue 27-Aug-13
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wave I absolutely agree with you Val. 

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Tue 27-Aug-13
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Not sure where Toni is . . but

Odelle is a valuable and welcome contributor and believes she has something valid to say.

No doubt Toni will be along to give her slant on things. I am not going to jump in with any comments.

Therefore, I will lock this thread temporarily until Toni unlocks it to respond.

Let's leave this debate until then please.

 

Thanks everybody,

Danny

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