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Sun 16-May-10
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mutley
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As you know i had been doing some post lately of dome and gloom, i have been following this for some years now but because of so many records being broken this year. and because and have many new friends here i feel i should let you know more of what is going on in the world right now.

People are waking up

Some of my friend think im a bit mad ( harsh but true ) i have been getting prepped for a few years now and i think is only right to let you all know what,s going on.

Food portions getting smaller

Earthquakes up 88% in last 3 years

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scientists-find-giant-plumes-of-oil-forming-under-the-gulf

5 new big volcanoes in the last two weeks have woken up

Our magnetosphere over the north pole was 1/3rd earths diameter big a few years ago,About 3 weeks ago they found it,s now 4 x the diameter of the earth.

Riots in Greece,Mexico,Thailand,Portugal,Ireland soon it will be Spain,Italy,uk, then the dollar will collapse the the usa will go down, the only way the usa can pay back china is devalue the dollar so its worth 0.02 cence and push gold up to 1.000.000 an oz

Don,t take my word for it do some research before it,s too late

Nigel.

Sun 16-May-10
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Oh well at least I can get the seeds in next week Witchy_Happy, that'll tide me over Cheers

Sun 16-May-10
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MOS
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That's the attitude Joanna always look on the bright side of life (i think there's a song about that somewhere)

and if that fails sit in the garden with the chucks Smile,they never fail to brighten me up.Wink

and think of the things we could order from the us with the dollar at tupenc'hapenny a bucket.

MOS xx

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Sun 16-May-10
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Must be something to do with having finished an assignment whilst sitting in a little wooden workshop that still smells of freshly cut wood and looking out on a lovely spring scene - pics on the blog tomorrow (Monday) Cheers, couldn't feel down after all that.

Sun 16-May-10
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I love fresh cut wood , its vary close behind woodsmoke, and stew with pearlbarly and dumplings,I_am_Hungry

oh god im'e going to the pantry again ,wish me luck ,i may be some time MOS xx

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Sun 16-May-10
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I think there is some value in what Mutley has researched. Certainly, Fiona and I think that the frequency of natural disasters has increased dramatically in the past two years. We did not have objective analysis, just a sensation.

Not being alarmist but there does seem to be potential warnings of bigger and worse natural events ahead, plus the civil unrest that Mutley mentions. We are just glad that we are well down the road towards greater self sufficiency.

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Mon 17-May-10
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"Paranoid? Probably. But just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face."Monster
Jim Butcher (Storm Front)

Okay, that said, I was looking online, and I found a wikipedia entry on plate techtonics...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics

If you double click on the map to make it bigger, and find Iceland, then trace your finger down the map, you will find that the North American Plate that runs through the middle of Iceland also runs through Haiti/Dominican Republic. So that friction would also give some explination to the Chilean earthquakes, since the North American Plate movements would also disrupt the Cocos and Nazca plates. There has even been some earthquakes of the coast of Oregon to, but they are in the ocean far off the coast. I grew up with plate techtonics drilled into my head in science classes, since Oregon sits on the Pacific "Ring of Fire" and was probably about 10 when Mt. Saint Helen's blew her top back in 1980. That was something I will never forget.

Mutley, i'm not discounting anything you have said, the world financial disruptions have made everyone uneasy. And if I see a civil war starting up over here, I will let all of you know. So far the only civil war I see is between the Democrats and the Republicans. I think I will fall over in a dead faint if either one of those parties would step up to the plate and say "Yeah, we screwed up, we're sorry!".

After all, isn't an English proverb "Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst?"

If you can't be a shining example, be a terrible warning!

Mon 17-May-10
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To me life is about being preped,

I would rather have a condom and never use it, that want one but never have it,

There is a big increase in people moving over to self sufficiency

Most people i think are moving towards self sufficiency because food, electric, fuel is all going up all the time and work is getting harder to find. the calm before the storm. Peace

Mon 17-May-10
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Hi mutley i personally think there is a lot of truth in what you say .

the world is a volatile place at the best of times but i think its in a state of change which will affect us all someway or other .my theories are a bit deep on that one ,so i will hold off that subject. we are hoarders and doers in this household we intend to get om with what we can until the earth does what its gearing up to do then just try to survive the aftermath .i tend to hide behind the funny side of things ,but that doesn't mean things wont happen, and keeping your ear to the ground may just give one the edge.

yours concerned and watching MOS

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Mon 17-May-10
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Many thanks i have some out of the box theorys my self, Did not need the net to know what,s up but can keep up dated as well as fighting this lot picking on a 103 year old man will one arm Wave Big_Laugh

Mon 17-May-10
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Although I can see the potential for a lot of harm, I also see the potential for a lot of good. This forum shows that; how a group of folks from a lot of different places can come together and have a joke, have a chat, get to know each other a bit and find out folks are not all that bad after all. Imagine what we could do if we could spread that good cheer a bit further, maybe we can make a difference!Cheers

“They may see the good that you do as self-serving.
Continue to do good.
They may see your generosity as grandstanding.
Continue to be generous.
They may see your warm and caring nature as a weakness.
Continue to be warm and caring.
For you see, in the end, it is between you and God.
It never was between you and them anyway.”
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Mon 17-May-10
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Shereen
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Mutley and I have exchanged PMs about the earthquake thing before. It's also something G and I talked about when there seemed to be a spike in the numbers cropping up in the news. We dug out this link showinf earthquake numbers over the past lot of years:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/.....qstats.php

They take the stance that we have got better at locating earthquakes, specifically the smaller ones, thanks to changes in technology. They also say that the numbers of higher magnitude earthquakes has remained more or less constant.

This doesn't mean I discount the gloom forecasters. Technology has made the world a smaller place and we've grown used to supplies travelling distances that would once have been unthinkable for a basic consumable. Living in Norn Iron I've seen the impact the volcanic ash cloud has had on sandwich supplies in M&S and Boots; and a similar impact on some supermarket foodstuffs too.

With some food scares on the mainland last year we learnt that "Northern Ireland Beef/ Lamb/ Chicken/ Pork" sold in Tesco was actually shipped to the mainland for processing and packaging before being shipped back to us. So our food supplies were affected again because our supply chains are too long and vulnerable.

There is a balance to be sought between the "end of the world" folk (I'm thinking about a chap in another online place I belong to, who has taken such a gloomy view of society's future that we've taken to sticking Nostra in front of his name in honour of Nostradamus!) and the people who think we can go on thoughtlessly consuming resources indefinitely.

It's late and I'm rambling - sorry folks. The point I'm trying to get to has already been best summed up earlier in the thread by Michelle from Oregon: hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. We've got too good at taking things for granted.

Mon 17-May-10
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The point I'm trying to get to has already been best summed up earlier in the thread by Michelle from Oregon: hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. We've got too good at taking things for granted.


Spot on, Shereen and Michelle.

No panic, yet, but do not be surprised at anything that the planet or its human inhabitants throw up.

Today, sitting by our pond and listening to the lovely birdsong, I thought "what a beautiful planet this was, and it has taken humankind's greed to f**k it up."

Siberian tigers, polar bears or orangutans would never had caused this much damage as we have over the past 200 years.

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Tue 18-May-10
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Oh, yeah, there was something that I forgot to tell you Mutley.

You said that some of your friends thought you were "mad"? Well, if you are "mad" why is it you are willing to spark a discussion and hear dissenting views on a subject?

It would seem to me if you were "mad" you would brook no dissension/different views/argument (not that we argue on here, nicest bunch of people I've ever met!) and you have always been very respectful (mind, I said respectful, nothing about the teasing!) of other peoples views.

I for one appreciate that. Thank you.Big_Hug 

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Tue 18-May-10
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My (nabours) people next door ect. pop around nearly every night to see what im doing next, yesterday i picked,Haw leaves,Dandy lion flowers,nettles and made two jars of pickled nettles.got a load of spearmint so that has gone i a pot.

Got work in a hour Thumbs_Down. then another 20+ jars to wash and store.

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