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Thu 4-Feb-10
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AJ
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I know I have not been on in a while, but made a point of coming on tonight to look for the 6 nations thread that we were promised by Danny way back in the shortening days of Autumn.

The six-nations kicks of  at 14.30 with Ireland v Italy @ Croke park. Have to say Ireland all the way on this one.

15:00 The one I love to watch but get quite animated about England v Wales @ Twickers. I am hoping Wales will win but with the English team that has been picked, it could be a classic with either side winning.

Your thoughts please Ladies and Gentlemen.

AJ

Thu 4-Feb-10
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Good man, AJ. Only today I remembered that comment from a few months ago. You got in ahead of me (bleedin' Welsh get in early doors everywhere!).

Note: this thread is likely to be a combination of deep insightful analysis with a great dollop of good old-fashioned wind-up  Laugh Whistle Monster

For those who have no idea what the heck we are talking about, this is web site of the advertising sponsors and this is a good site for news etc. We are talking European International Rugby. The best 6 countries.

It is very important to note that the current Champions and Grand Slam Winners (beat the whole of Europe last time out) is the team from the tiny (and humble Big_Laugh ) land of IRELAND. Magic Pint Pint Pint

AJ - I need to draw breath and a pint of Pint

Will return with my thoughts later. Just wanted to paint the tapestry (!).

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Thu 4-Feb-10
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Cymru am byth, yachy da and leeks innit boyo, have a bite of this yur coal.

Am greatly relieved that Lee Byrne has been cleared to play saturday, tensions will be running high with us,my poor saesneg cariad is in the minority, as he'll be watching with me, a kiwi, some french people, a german and a few other not particularly pro england nationalities.

and of course i'll be backing my celtic cousins against the eye-tes. we onlylet them in soyou lot would hae someone to beat you know.

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Thu 4-Feb-10
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Rae - I can tell when you have a "cup of tea" too many. Your first sentence and your last were both almost identical - a tad unintelligible Big_Laugh

I am too tired to talk serious stuff. But i am really delighted that Lee Byrne got out of gaol. I had not heard that. We want to beat the full Welsh team in Croke Park and not have any lame excuses from our red-shirted cousins Whistle Whistle Whistle  Magic

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Thu 4-Feb-10
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ach and fie to you Danny boy! the first sentence was mostly welsh. well, the cymru am byth bit was. means wales forever. yachy da means good health.

for the last bit i act the poor workman and blame my tools. this keyboard has a resistant space bar,so i often fail to separate my words properly. I meant to type "we only let them in so you lot would have someone to beat".

despite my tender years I remember when it was the 5 nations, and the Irish fought us regularly for the wooden spoon.

side note: my mother's preferred method of corporal punishment was a smack across the back of the legs with a wooden spoon, which always made the accolade of the least successful team particularly poignant too me.

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Fri 5-Feb-10
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Danny said:

Rae - I can tell when you have a "cup of tea" too many. Your first sentence and your last were both almost identical - a tad unintelligible Big_Laugh

I am too tired to talk serious stuff. But i am really delighted that Lee Byrne got out of gaol. I had not heard that. We want to beat the full Welsh team in Croke Park and not have any lame excuses from our red-shirted cousins Whistle Whistle Whistle  Magic


Danny you may want to, but I doubt if you will Cool

AJ

Fri 5-Feb-10
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WellDone I'll drink to that AJ my boy Cheers

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Fri 5-Feb-10
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As an aside, I used to work for Budge Rogers when he was Chairman of the England Selectors.  Always a dilemma when Wales played England because I'd have divided loyalties.

I'll try that again!

Fri 5-Feb-10
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Nice one, AJ. We have a few weeks of build-up to deliver ever improving wind-ups and laughs! Big_Laugh

From my perspective, I think Irl will have seen the way that Wales half crumbled the year after their last grand slam. I am not being at all over confident (who would, facing England in Sarf Lunnun and France in Paris) but Declan Kidney (Head Coach) is a cool dude, psychologically the best in the Northern Hemisphere (NH) and a smooth operator. I think he may be the difference with the current Irish squad compared with previous ones. Brian O'Driscoll (BOD to newcomers) is 31 this year. Not long to go, and he is without doubt the key man, the spark, the polish. Without him, we are mid table at best.

[For those unaccustomed to the game of rugby, the southern hemisphere (SH) nations of New Zealand, Australia and South Africa, with Argentina close behind, have been generally superior to the NH teams for quite a long time. But the gap is closing. To beat NZ would be a huge feather in the cap of any NH team. The All Blacks (NZ) are the ultimate exponents of the game (mostly)].

Once upon a time in the 70s, Wales held that accolade. But then somebody introduce a beer called Brains to Wales and it wrecked the boyos. Big_Laugh

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Fri 5-Feb-10
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Danny,

I am old enough to remember the heady days of Welsh rugby, where  JJ Williams, Jpr Williams, The Pontypool front row of Windsor Cobner and Price, Gareth Edwards to name a few were names that were on everyones lips. As a child, we worshiped the ground they walked on, you could come to our village and ask any child what position any player played in and they would tell you. Ask them who was prime minister and you would get a blank stare.

A little village about 5 miles from ours had a wandering folk singer by the name of Max Boyce. He tried to capture with his musical poems the essence of what rugby means to the average Welsh man. A little taste of Welsh humour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsJRWfpMMQY

AJ

Sat 6-Feb-10
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Ah yes, AJ, I think we are of a similar vintage. Add the name of Barry John to your list of greats.

I have one great anecdote: I am hopeless at knowing the year in which events occurred but we were in Paris for Fra v Irl . I was way up in the grandstand but one of my mates was stood by the corner flag. Ball goes out of play and comes to him. He throws it back onto the field, straight to Serge Blanco. SB takes a quick throw-in to himself and launches an attack that results in a French try. With great self restraint, I will not mention MG’s real name! Whistle Big_Laugh

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Sat 6-Feb-10
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Cry

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Sat 6-Feb-10
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Nomination for Most Succinct, Yet Perfectly Understandable Post Of The Month (phew)

Bummer, Rae.

For me, the highlights were James Hook's try and the Hook Handoff. Plus, it must be said, the vastly improved England defence. England are back as a force in rugby. Wales really missed Gethin Jenkinks IMO and AWJ's yellow card cost them dearly, but were beaten by (a) the better team on the day and (b) too many really basic errors - it happens to every team occasionally on an off day. Richie Rees made a significant difference when he came on for Cooper, but it was just one of those days for Wales.

Dammit, I wanted a draw. We have to play Eng at Twickenham and today's win will boost their confidence no end.

The Ireland win over Italy proved nothing whatsoever. Irl cruised it in second gear and, although I have really admired the Italians over the past 10 years, they were totally inept today. It was a real bore. Bring on France v Irl in Paris (that's Paris -  France - Europe, not Paris - Texas) next weekend. That will sort the men from the boys.

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Sat 6-Feb-10
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What can I say?

We were beaten by a mediocre English team, neither team had any idea what to do with the ball once they had it in their hands. That said, both teams were pretty strong in defence, the AWJ incident being the key factor in England breaking the Welsh line.

If today's matches are indicative of NH rugby then there is only a fag paper between the teams, Italy apart!

It does make me wonder what we in the NH have to do to compete with the SH the All Blacks in particular? We have the same fitness levels,  skill levels are on a par, some SH players find it 'not so easy' in our domestic leagues. It seems on paper as if we should have parity, but, sadly all the NH teams seem in awe of any SH side.

Anyhow that aside this is about the 6 nations, will have to wait for tomorrows installment before any predictions can be made. However, I have not seen anything yet to set my heart racing.Confused

Sat 6-Feb-10
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You summed it up well D. We made a bit of a hash of it,dropped easy passes, Hook missed two penalties early on, Wyn Jones was a tit, we lost a few balls in the line out.

England played better, but still not astoundingly well. Though some fat little saes bugger tried exactly the same thing, just before that second try for whatsisname. he didn't get sent off though.

Also,the director of the BBC programming was amazingly biased.It galls me sometimes how anglocentric BC programming is.

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