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Sour Dough Starters and Wild Yeasts

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8:53 pm
Mon 30-Jan-12


Aly

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Yes, if you have a beer you have to share a bit with your starter, it really makes it bubble!

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2:57 pm
Tue 31-Jan-12


maggenpie

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I baked my bread and fruit loaf this morning, and I'm very happy with both. smile

The fruit loaf is really good, better than the yeasty gf ones I've made. The bread did benefit from the extra xanthan gum, there's more air in it than my previous ones. I left it overnight hoping it would rise a bit more but I think I could just as well have baked it last night for all the difference there was. Now I have to eat most of this batch before I can experiment again. Maybe a millet one next.

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3:13 pm
Tue 31-Jan-12


Sooliz

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You've inspired me, Ruthie ok.  I've got enough starter to make two loaves tomorrow, think I'll make one of them a fruit loaf.  Never made a fruity one before, should be interesting!  Do you just mix the sugar, spice and fruit in with the flour, starter and liquid?  Anything else added? 

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6:32 pm
Tue 31-Jan-12


Terrier

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I've just made the heaviest soda bread in the world I think…well I made it yesterday, and it didn't rise at all, cooked it anyway and it's so heavy that you feel that you've had a 3 course meal after a couple of slices…do you think I've come up with a new diet fad?

6:58 pm
Tue 31-Jan-12


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You could make a fortune with that Janet!

I'll try that again!

7:54 am
Wed 1-Feb-12


maggenpie

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I made the bread dough then decided to use some for fruit loaf. So…
I had put egg white in already so added the yolk. Decided it needed sugar and spice so added and tasted until it was yummy. Put in enough fruit. I think that's all I did.
Good luck Sue, report back! :)

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8:19 am
Wed 1-Feb-12


Sooliz

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Thanks Ruthie, I will!

Janet, one of my first GF loaf efforts looked, was shaped like and, I'm pretty sure, tasted much like a house brick…..And it appeared to weigh twice as much when it came out of the oven as it did when it went in eeek  I didn't bother chopping it up and putting it out for the birds as I was afraid it would weigh them down so much they wouldn't be able to fly! big_laugh

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9:30 pm
Wed 1-Feb-12


Terrier

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Thanks Sue, I 'll give my sour dough a go at the weekend, made one a few months ago and we really loved it, been feeding the recent one now for a good few weeks.

7:31 am
Thu 2-Feb-12


Aly

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I have had 1 rather heavy result too but on the whole it is getting lighter I just don't seem to get very big air holes. I have asked OH to have a beer soon so I can add a bit. I have also wondered if it is too cold in the pantry, where I keep my starter.

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2:28 pm
Thu 2-Feb-12


devongarden

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Aly, I don't think keeping the starter cold matters–they can be kept in a fridge. I think the starter needs to be warmed up before starting a sponge, otherwise the sponge takes forever. The sponge does need to be i a warm spot.

I have 2 GF sourdough loaves in the oven, so I can't report on how light they will be yet. I adapted a recipe for San Francisco sourdough from the Sunset Favorite Recipes book, (here or more expensively here) which is the one I found worked best for me in the past. For older cookbooks I use 4oz flour where a recipe calls for 1 cup which works for me. To transform in into a GF recipe I use 4 oz GF flour and adjust the liquid as needed.

2:29 pm
Thu 2-Feb-12


Sooliz

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Success!!!!  We made 2 loaves yesterday using my sourdough starter – one normal loaf and a fruity one.  The normal one is gorgeous….crunchy crust (just how I like it), chewy crumb and – best of all – it actually now tastes like sourdough!  Had one slice with toasted cheese for lunch, the rest has been sliced and frozen, otherwise I'll eat it all over the next couple of daysembarassed.  I've found that if I only eat bread say once or twice a week, it doesn't affect my stomach too much.

Haven't had any of the fruity one, but husband's had some toasted with homemade plum jam and says it's delicious, although he thinks it needs a bit more sugar next time.

Thanks again Nadine, for starting me off on thisbig_hug…..never looking back now, the starter is now a permanent fixture in my kitchen (with a Tupperware box of extra starter in the freezer as back up).

And of course thanks to Azelia for her brilliant instructions.

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11:54 am
Sun 5-Feb-12


bobquail

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We had our first homemade bread this morning and used it to make a fried egg sandwich for breakfast. I think the dough was a bit soft because it was still very sticky and was more of a splodge shape than loaf shape but by the time it had been baked it tasted pretty good.

One slight problem though – when I fed the starter again this morning I noticed it had started smelling a bit vinegary. Now I remember reading it can sometimes smell a bit when you first start it but this is a week old now and has been ok so far. Has anyone else had this happen and will it go away or would I be better off throwing it away and starting again?

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12:55 pm
Sun 5-Feb-12


Sooliz

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Mike, I'm sure Nadine will be the best person to answer this.  I've noticed mine goes through various different smelling stages, sometimes it's a bit vinegary, sometimes very yeasty like beer, at the moment it smells pleasantly fruity.  I wouldn't abandon it just yet, just keep feeding it.

Incidentally, Azelia recommends throwing some of the starter away, then topping it up with the same quantity of water/flour.  I don't know whether that makes a difference, rather than continually adding to it without chucking any out first?  That's what I do, anyway (throw some out, I mean…..although I do sometimes pour some into another container to start up another batch, or freeze it – I'm a bit paranoid about having none left or ruining it!).

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2:04 pm
Sun 5-Feb-12


Aly

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I always throw some away before feeding it and it mostly smells of apples. When it was new it did have a slightly vinegary smell that turned to the apple smell.

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9:50 pm
Sun 5-Feb-12


devongarden

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I think the vinegary smell is normal for sourdough. I can't bear to throw any away, I take out what I want for a sponge and then feed what is left if I need more. It can go up to 2 or 3 weeks without being fed, though it is happier being fed more often. But my GF starter seems fine, thank goodness, and the bread is ok.

I read somewhere that if it gets to sour you can add some cream of tartar and baking soda to the starter. I will try to look it up and post quantities.



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