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Bacteria/yeast flowers in wine?
Tue 5-Jan-10
9:34 pm
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grapecat
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Hi - any other home brewers/winemakers out there?

We've been making country wines pretty steadily now for a few years, but on the weekend we had our first major fail and had to dump 3 gallons of elderberry (no I didn't actually cry but nearly).

I hadn't checked it for a while - it was happily fermenting under the stairs, and when we brought it out for its 3rd rack, we noticed all this -stuff- in the demijohns - like little tiny dandelion spores. All three were loaded with them. It smelled OK, but when we tasted it it was like coloured water, or very very bland elderberry juice. Some net research leads me to think this must either be yeast or bacteria spores - the yeast ones apparently "eat" all the alcohol out of the wine! Thieves!!!!

Has anyone else ever had this happen? Or heard of it? Was this a problem in steralising at first perhaps? I did use campden tablets on this batch before adding yeast. On the otherhand, the batch was always a bit funny somehow, right from the start.

Just curious! And also, definitely don't want a repeat.  At least the 6 gallon batch of blackberry/elderberry seems spore-less and very good indeed 🙂

Wed 6-Jan-10
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What a shame, I think I would have cried.  At least you have the blackberry/elderberry.  No help from me but I'm sure someone here will be able to offer enlightenment.

I'll try that again!

Tue 26-Jan-10
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Lost mine too 5gall grape and 5gall plum i think its the containers on mine as the plastic must be contamated

and dose need to be spotless Cry

Tue 26-Jan-10
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What a shame Mutley, you must feel very disappointed.  Good luck for next year.

I'll try that again!

Sat 31-Jul-10
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Will do this years batch in glass this time hope to do 10 gall of blackberry and 10 gall of elder berry medicine

Sat 31-Jul-10
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That's a lot of wine, mutley cheers. Do you have a lot of demijohns or do you make a few gallons at a time? I usually only make around 3 gallons or so of blackberry and/or elderberry wines because

a) it would take way too long to collect enough fruit, and

b) I just don't have to room to make or store that much wine frown

I've currently got 1 gallon of elderflower cider in the shed, along with 1 gallon of elderflower wine, with another gallon of wine fermenting in the kitchen. And when I say shed, I mean old outside privvy with the bog removed and shelves put in.

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Sat 31-Jul-10
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That's still very good going, BobQ.

Mind telling us what exactly is elderflower cider? Never heard of that before now. tea

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Sat 31-Jul-10
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The elderflower cider is simply made from 4 litres of apple juice, with a couple of handfuls of elderflowers thrown in at the start of the fermentation. With the usual yeast and nutrient added like a normal wine recipe. I first made it last year because we like the copella apple and elderflower juice, but it's too expensive to buy to make cider from. Plain cider made from cheap supermarket juice is usually a bit bland but it's improved a lot by adding something with a little bit of flavour.

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