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Fur still a no no in the UK?

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7:29 pm
Tue 29-Mar-11


JoannaS

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I was chatting with a Latvian friend who wants to set up a sewing business using local fabrics and one of the local by products from a growing rabbit meat industry is of course fur. She was quite keen to use this to make garments or to at least add embellishments but I said that it was not the sort of thing she could sell in the UK, am I still correct in this? After all it is just over 8 years since I left the UK.

I can see the point of not having fur from certain species as they need protecting but animals from those hunted due to over population, or skins as a by product from meat production – humanely raised of course – I don't see a problem. I seem to think leather is okay but turned the other way and have fur does. Daft really!what_the_heckwhat_the_heckwhat_the_heck

8:30 pm
Tue 29-Mar-11


Terrier

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I think there is still an anti-fur element to the british viewpoint Joanna, even though as you say rabbit is sustainable and all that.

9:48 pm
Tue 29-Mar-11


seth

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Just read a comment elsewhere on why leather is acceptable yet fur is not . " It's easier to berate a woman than a Hells Angel " QED  whistle 

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5:18 am
Wed 30-Mar-11


JoannaS

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Like it Seth! I suppose the reason for the fact people will wear leather and suede is it doesn't look like a cute fluffy animal and shows how little thought process is involved in making decisions on what is acceptable and what is not. I suppose my friend could use the leather from rabbit skin to embellish garments. cheers

12:15 pm
Wed 30-Mar-11


seth

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The skin used to be used as poor mans glass in windows let some light in but kept the wind out , no-one seems to object to high-class millinery made out of felted rabbit fur.what_the_heck  wave  

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4:30 pm
Wed 30-Mar-11


JoannaS

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felted rabbit fur? Not angora which they comb off and so not a by product of meat by any chance?

4:59 pm
Wed 30-Mar-11


Toffeeapple

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Hats, Joanna, hats are made from felted rabbit fur.  Especially top-hats and Bowlers.

 

I'll try that again!

7:26 pm
Wed 30-Mar-11


seth

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JoannaS said:

felted rabbit fur? Not angora which they comb off and so not a by product of meat by any chance?

 

No ordinary wild rabbit fur. They used to be hawked from door to door in fur (otherwise could be cat ) cost about 6d (2.5 p) but 2d back on the skin the next week.  wave 

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11:15 am
Thu 31-Mar-11


KateUK

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Fur a no no unless you are a couture designer and it is mink or similar and you can ride out the criticism.

 

Kateuk makes things at http://www.etsy.com/shop/finkstuff and sometimes she does this too http://www54paintings.blogspot.com/ and also this http://finkstuff.weebly.com/

6:48 pm
Fri 1-Apr-11


JoannaS

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Now I am wondering how to felt rabbit fur. what_the_heckwhat_the_heckwhat_the_heckwhat_the_heck At least it gives me some ideas to pass on for uses of rabbit fur – just don't make it look like fur!!!cheers

7:58 am
Sat 2-Apr-11


Hattie

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wave Hi Joanna,

It looks as if felted rabbit hair is mainly used in making hats as it is very strong, lightweight & almost waterproof.

Here are a few links that might be useful…. what_the_heck  I suspect this idea might not be a simple (or very safe) process….read the last link…….  ponder

 

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1947Natur.159..640M

http://members.peak.org/~spark/feltlistFAQ.html#Ho…..e%20Felt 

http://www.thefunkyfelter.com/thegallery.html

http://www.thefunkyfelter.com/felting.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angora_wool

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=200709…..030AAd9e2N

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8:57 am
Sun 3-Apr-11


OdelleS

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JoannaS said:

I was chatting with a Latvian friend who wants to set up a sewing business using local fabrics and one of the local by products from a growing rabbit meat industry is of course fur. She was quite keen to use this to make garments or to at least add embellishments but I said that it was not the sort of thing she could sell in the UK, am I still correct in this? After all it is just over 8 years since I left the UK.

I can see the point of not having fur from certain species as they need protecting but animals from those hunted due to over population, or skins as a by product from meat production – humanely raised of course – I don't see a problem. I seem to think leather is okay but turned the other way and have fur does. Daft really!what_the_heckwhat_the_heckwhat_the_heck

Faux Fur is everywhere.  It's 'double standard's really isn't it?  It does seem ever so silly that  rabbit meat appears to be having a revival in a big way, all the top chefs seem to be cooking with it, no doubt that'll raise the price of that as is Ox-Tail, Calves Liver, and plenty of other game, meats & offal! 

It does seem rather silly though when the rabbits are a by-product from the meat industry, as you say, it's fine to wear leather & suede.what_the_heck ponder

I am a firm animal lover, not vegetarian, yet don't eat a great deal of meat, I really have to 'fancy' something first & would never waste any meat or fish, just as that's the way we were brought up I suppose.  Yet even I think it's silly not to utilise the skin what happens to it?  Surely it's better to use everything than to discard it!

I'm afraid I think it is still 'frowned upon', yet seems silly!

Odelle. wave  

7:22 pm
Tue 5-Apr-11


JoannaS

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Thanks Hattie for those links, will have a look at them tomorrow. I'm running out of time tonight.

I quite agree with all that you put Odelle, we don't eat a huge amount of meat but I don't like to think anything got wasted in the process.cheers

7:24 am
Wed 6-Apr-11


elrohana

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Personally I own lots of rabbit skins, mainly used for collars and trims on cloaks and such like for LARP costumes, all sourced from a fur company in the UK that guarantees they are by products of rabbit meat industry.  I'm good with that.  I'm a meat eater and as long as animals are treated with respect, I don't have a problem (even though I was veggie for a while).  I also own an arctic fox fur, which came from the same company and this one was guaranteed to be either from an injured animal humanely despatched or from a cull.  Again, no problem.  I wouldn't want to own a pelt from an animal that had been reared and killed purely for its fur, or hunted in the wild for its skin.

 

However I suspect my views are not widely held outside of the pagan and LARP/re-enactment communities.

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7:33 pm
Thu 7-Apr-11


JoannaS

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At least it is worth remembering when thinking of potential customers. cheers



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