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Does anyone have any secrets on how to deter mice?
Fri 20-Nov-09
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Does anyone have any secrets on how to deter mice?

They have eaten their way into the larder again. I've heard that certain herbs deter rats (mint). Has anyone tried this with mice?

Or any other ideas. I hate it when we have to revert to traps Frown

Fri 20-Nov-09
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Steel doors?Wink

I'll try that again!

Fri 20-Nov-09
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A cat 🙂 Although our cat used to bring live mice indoors and let them go for hours of rain-free sport, which didn't exactly improve matters ... I had one of those humane traps under the sink (so the cat couldn't get at it), and took the captured mice outside, but I did start to suspect that I was catching the same ones over and over again. Aren't the MinPins interested?

I happened to be reading about mice in wikipedia the other day. Apparently they are repelled by artificial fruit scents, and the Romans used to burn strawberry-oil candles to keep them away.  So scented candles might be worth a try?

Fri 20-Nov-09
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googled it.  It says mint for mice as well.  no idea other than traps and finding their nest and killing them.  But Toffeapples suggestion might not be a bad idea.  find where the are getting in and use http://www.metals4u.co.uk/detail.asp?cat_id=55.....94 to make like a skirting board of it.  I think mice and rats dont jump up, so say 6-10 inch height?  Costs a lot, but if it is a year on year problem.  Sort it properly once, will stop you from spending on it again and again...

Else how about a mesh skirting if you dont want to kill them...

Or where ever they are getting in, on the outside of the wall put bricks infront and get the min pins to have a quick wee on it ever so often?  Just some random ideas....

Not sure if any will help.

Fri 20-Nov-09
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I agree- try to find out where they are coming in from- then close it off, preferably with metal! Borrow a cat and have it stay in the larder overnight for a few nights? They will come back though, mice always do, you just need to get to the source of mice...no easy solution...

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Sat 21-Nov-09
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Thank you Veronica. I'd love a cat but D isn't keen on them. The Min Pins hunt mice in the garden but not in the house. Scented candles - noe there's a thought 🙂

Hello SOL

Great ideas. Today will be hunt the exterior mouse hole day. Thanks.

Hi KateUK

The larder is quite small as the big fridge freezer is in there. Not enough room for a cat but I do have metal and I've found their doorway into the larder so I will secure with metal on the larder end.

Thu 7-Jan-10
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I have lived in my current house for about 5 years. It is about 300 years old, so there are lots of ways in for rodents. This is the first year I haven't had mice, and once or twice rats, come in. They used to come in through adjacent houses, through walls, whatever. Next door now have several cats (a nuisance in my garden!) and have also blocked up all the holes they can find in the wall. I mentioned that I'd had the ratman in several times, and there was therefore poison between the floors of my house, and therefore mice might eat it and get back into their house and get eaten and harm the cats. So that is prevention. I also have an electronic plug in rodent repellant in the loft, and haven't seen fresh droppings there for 2 or 3 years.

Prevention in the kitchen/larder means having every food item in glass, tins, or plastic boxes with good seals so the smell doesn't leak out. I hate having to use them as they take so much room compared to stacking cardboard boxes or paper bags of things. But needs must--once they ate into a bag of flour. Using tins works--in 2008 I made two Christmas cakes and stored one in a biscuit tin until December 2009. I stocked up on plastic boxes of various sizes at Asda last year, and use a lot of lock & lock boxes too.

Finally there is stopping up all the holes you can find. Wire wool works well, since mice can't chew through it. Chili is also useful--apparently the Victorians used to soak rags in water with chilies added, let them dry and use them to stop up holes, plastering them in afterwards. Mice can chew through plaster, but do not like chili. I did strew some cheap dried chilies around under the floor before blocking up holes.

Gook luck!

Thu 7-Jan-10
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For Fiona and Danny - you do realise that cats will hunt mice, rats, squirrels, slugs, snails, flies, wasps, and just about any other pest that comes in your house or garden?  My two boys even stalk the annoying little barky rat of a terrier up the road that terrorises us humans.  One day I am sure I will find it in our back garden with its neck broken.  They are a very useful pest control device.  Why not ask your local Cats Protection for a couple of ferals and let them live in your shed?

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Thu 7-Jan-10
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Brilliant post, Barbara. At last - a practical use for Chillies! Thanks for that. I never imagined that something as simple as wire wool would be a great deterrent. That's perfect because you can shape it to fill any size or shape of gap. Like you, our house is ancient and there are many access tunnels for the little (and bigger) varmints. Strangely, we have not heard rats in the walls and ceiling this year so far, I wonder why? It may be due to the quantity of poison that Fiona laid down last year.

Elrohana (that must be an acronym Wink ) - I know cats are great hunters but it's their apparent cruelty that turns me off them. It's a Marmite syndrome, I guess.

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Thu 25-Feb-10
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I should have known it was tempting fate to say I hadn't had any rodents this winter...

As I sit here they are running around in the ceiling.Cry I noticed yesterday that the poison in the airing cupboard (don't ask!) had been partially eaten, so I added more and hoped they would go away. But no, they are romping away. Grrr Angry

I suspect they are coming in from next door, who have thoughtfully removed a pane of glass in the bit of their house that is next to mine so their cats can get in when they are away.Yell Um, you keep your house intact and then leave a window open for snow, rain, bugs, rats, and whatever to get in?Confused

Thu 25-Feb-10
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Perhaps you need a cat, too, Barbara.

We had this problem in France - we had owls in the loft, birds nesting in the walls, and on one occasion a pine marten in there.

Unfortunately the building is very, very old, but what was needed was the edges of the walls and where the walls met the roof to be repaired and filled - that has now been done, and so far, touch wood, all is quiet again!

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Thu 25-Feb-10
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Thanks, Brightspark. I know more needs to be done on the walls--but due to the complicated interlocking of the houses it is hard to do.

Even borrowing a cat is out, since I am mildly allergic to cats and to dogs and having them in the house would cause problems. Frown  I will sprinkle chilies around, and play the tawny owl sound from the bird sound identifier--they do not like that!

I meant to ask if anyone had tried the scented candles, and did they work?

Fri 26-Feb-10
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E-How had some advise-

http://www.ehow.com/way_5192944_using-peppermint-m.....rrent.html

My Sis-in-law says that her Dad uses a similar mix in the big tractors on their farm when they store them for the winter, so the mice won't take um residence. Seems to work and the cab of the tractor smells nice too.

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Fri 26-Feb-10
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You ousted owls Brightspark Surprised, it is often illegal to do that as they are often protected, a nuisance if you have to live with them I guess.

Fri 26-Feb-10
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Depends, Joanna, what you mean by 'ousted' - they didn't seem to live there, only brought their meals in (yuk) - in fact, I think they are living in one of the barns. We didn't see one in the loft - ever, but the evidence they had been in there was obvious.

We still see the Barn Owl flying around - sometimes two of them. Very sadly, when we arrived on one occasion last year, the house was full of flies - unbelievably revolting - but it was because a Little Owl had fallen down one of the chimneys, and made a mess throughout the house, before dying in a corner.

That has stayed with me for a long time. Cry

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