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- Daily Mail Jenny Stocks gets it all wrong about self sufficiency
Sat 20-Nov-10
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Shereen
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What a lecturing article that is. Like you say she goes for the gadget-heavy luxury end of the self-sufficiency market, completely missing the whole point of The Good Life.

I'm not a fan of The Daily Mail anyway. I find it tends towards the misogynistic scare-mongering end of the reporting spectrum, and it never fails to give me The Rage if I read too many of its articles.

Sun 21-Nov-10
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i don't use news papers (well just the free ones ) you have to light the fire with somethingaarghbig_laughbig_laugh

sit down with a cupa and the urge will subside

Sun 21-Nov-10
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smile ok

I'll try that again!

Sun 21-Nov-10
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She also neglects basic economics of the life expectancy of any given investment, unless of course she is assuming that anyone who pays out all that lot in one year will end up getting bored after one year and pack it in roll_eyesshoo_fly

Sun 21-Nov-10
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MOS said:

i don't use news papers (well just the free ones ) you have to light the fire with somethingaarghbig_laughbig_laugh


 

I think the fun part is putting moustaches and glasses on all the pictures....I'm still not up to reading too much Bulgarian but there again, that's about all I used to do with them in UK.  I do agree with MOS though, you do have to have something to light fires with...As for the article....dig the dungies...big_laughbig_laugh

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Sun 21-Nov-10
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Gloom and doom abounds everywhere you read , take todays Daily Mail . there about to evict us all from Council Houses for daring to improve your circumstances . should be interesting, try getting a mortgage if your over 40 these days . OK theres private rented, been there done that , had a landlord who liked to let himself in and root through your undies when you wernt home, a total turd who offered to sleep with my then 14 year old daughter instead of paying rent  and finally the one who didnt bother to pay the mortgage and got us evicted....RANT OVER 

Mon 13-Dec-10
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Hi Danny,

One has to be very frugal when getting into this subject, because it does depend on where one starting point is. Not read articul but have got the jist from you.

To be self sufficient has so many different variations, just to give an example:

The production of Dairy products;

I would say that without a doubt it is cheaper to go to the supermarket.

But and here is the bit if you wish to supplement your food that's a different ball game.

Scarecrowe is living cheaper than a supermarket can provide, true, but at what cost to herself healthwise I wonder. To be self sufficient all the time and without going to the supermarket is a task not lighty undertaken and the biggest problem that I have had is buying tools/equipment need to be self sufficient. People want so much money just for a good working butter churn.

The main thing that I would say is that the problem does not lie with the like's of us but the fact that supermarkets rip producers off all the time and don't really care who they damage as long as they get the cheapest.

I see chickens even now in France for silly money well it cost 8€ just to buy a point of lay chicken in the market and food cost have gone sky high now.

What we need is a return to the old system of not allowing anyone to sell products at cheaper prices. Turn back the High Street clearly demonstrats this point and the harm it has done to our society. It is in the governments hands, no doubt they are all shareholders of the supermarkets.

But this subject is indeed of great interest.i_am_hungry

 

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Read articul yes it was very biased in favour of the supermarkets, maybe she has shares too. Shame they stopped the comments, your's was great though.

I must remember to order new chicken house on a regular basis as they don't seem to last more than a year!!

 

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Mon 13-Dec-10
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Hi Robert - you do have a point about turning the clock back, and also that it probably does not pay to try to produce your own dairy produce these days. unless you can sell your surplus.

But nowadays you are up again health regulations that simply cost too much for the small producer.

50 years ago, my dad had five acres and always kept a milk cow and a steer or two (for sale). The cow kept the family of us five kids in milk. He did not sell any surplus because it was always used up by making butter or whatever.

I don't know for sure but I would hazard a guess that these days you would not be allowed to drink milk from your own cow unless you pasteurised it first. I'm surprised that we are still allowed to eat the eggs from our own chickens. It would not surprise me at all if some regulations were introduced to prevent even that.

Sorry, I did not mean to start a rant steam

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Mon 13-Dec-10
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No well said, you are so right here in France we are so bound up with regulations that it is smothering the people, but being French many just ignore the regs. I manage to get your TV programs off a site called thebox.bz and I am having great delight in watching on my laptop Tales from the Green Valley but was shocked that due to health regulations they are not allowed to sleep on the Farm. How ridiculous have we become, Defra has a lot to answer for in the UK and I can assure you that they are just as bad over here.

I live without electric and the only reason it is difficult is that I am used to having it.

We all missed something on the paper articule most people need a car to go shopping at the supermarket and this added to the costs makes her sums real rubbish. working on her theory an egg at sainsbury would work out X buying car + insurance + petrol + Maintainance.

 

But what_the_heck we enjoy what we do and we did it ourselves and that to me is the most important aspect of being self sufficient.

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Tue 14-Dec-10
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Cherami said:  

But what_the_heck we enjoy what we do and we did it ourselves and that to me is the most important aspect of being self sufficient.


 Absolutely!  welldone   welldone   big_hug

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Tue 14-Dec-10
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Toffeeapple said:

Love it, real people here, not journalists who think they know best.  Heck, she doesn't look old enough to have an opinion.  If you live in Lunnon, do you have to pay top whack for everything?


oi! don't be ageist. I'm damn sure she's older than me.

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Tue 14-Dec-10
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Danny said:

 

I don't know for sure but I would hazard a guess that these days you would not be allowed to drink milk from your own cow unless you pasteurised it first. I'm surprised that we are still allowed to eat the eggs from our own chickens. It would not surprise me at all if some regulations were introduced to prevent even that.

 

 1st sat.of month Sleaford or Spalding farmers market 3rd wednesday Boston farmers market go to Lincolnshire Poacher Cheese stall you can buy straight from the cow milk ,fresh butter and super cheeses from the man that makes them . Can't get beestings tho.ok   wave Go to Lincolnshire Poacher for cheese don't think you'll get milk  !!

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Tue 14-Dec-10
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My next door neighbour has her own cow, drinks her own milk, supplies me with yoghurt and yoghurt drink and cheese that she makes herself and ofcourse, she supplies me with eggs from her own chickens....and I've just had cooked meat that her son killed for the meat festival....that's BG for you but don't tell the EU.....surprised

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