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- Home heating improvements Cost v Savings
Thu 21-Apr-11
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Toffeeapple
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Hooray for Seth!  welldone

I'll try that again!

Fri 22-Apr-11
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devongarden said:

I got some of the windows double glazed a couple of years ago and it made a tremendous difference to those rooms in the last couple of cold winters.

That sounds like most people's experience I should think, Barbara. So i would question that savings figure in the first post. I'm sure it must be higher than that.

Also, I added a link for the Schrijver people and their damp control technique.

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Sat 23-Apr-11
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I think when they talk about heat loss through double glazing they forget the amount of heat you also lose with old windows not fitting properly and being drafty, dunno but I always found DG made a big improvement.

Oh and the other thing I have also done is brought my freezer in doors from the garage as it also gives off a bit of heat  - not that I need it right now !! but it will be helpful in the winter.

I have reached an age where my train of thought often leaves the station without me...

Wed 4-May-11
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Not heating directly, but a big improvement has been the PV panels that went up last week. I didn't install them! A small company called djh renewables did a terrific job. Of course, thanks to delays in manufacture and delivery of the panels to djh I missed the wonderful sunny 3 weeks we had, but even so I get some free electricity. They should pay for themselves over 10 years, and are guaranteed for 25, as is the tariff for generating power, so they should earn a fair bit as well as making me more self-sufficient. If the price of electricity goes up even faster than expected they could pay for themselves even sooner. 

I am calculating when to use the dishwasher as well as the washing machine now--no more overnight running, I want at least some of the electricity to be free.

Wed 4-May-11
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Well done, Barbara. Let's hope they yield what you expect and it will be very interesting to get occasional updates throughout the year.

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Wed 4-May-11
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I will try to post updates. I have spent far too long this afternoon on the phone to get the forms I need to get the feed-in tariff, and to work out the sequence of forms and installing an export meter. Very nice people on the phone, but they don't seem to talk the same language I do--mutual incomprehension. I think it was a question of technospeak versus human speak, not English (or more accurately Scottish) speakers and my American English.

Sun 29-May-11
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Hello I am back!

 

moved to a new (old) house.

 

Anyways, our biggest difference in our previous house, was when we had the loft insulated.  We used space blankets (the stuff in the plastic bags), we just unrolled them and that was it.

 

We had a company inject insulation into the cavity walls about 3 months before.  but our real difference was the loft insulation.

 

I agree with every one about double glazing and it cutting down on condensation.  Any damp in a house and bang, chest infection for me.

 

Our front door was also huge, and we used triple lined curtains, and a pelmet box over the top so that there was no where a draft could enter.

 

Dont forget, there may still be grants for insulation.  The companies that do the cavity walls normally fill all the paperwork etc for you.  so dont let that worry you.  Always check for grants, if the quota is filled for that year, see if there will be another the next year.  Make sure you are top of the list!wave

Sun 29-May-11
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wave Hi.  Great to hear from you again.  Will you be able to stay with us now?  Lots of new people on here now but all of them fantastic.

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Sun 29-May-11
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Well I hope to be back.  it will all be a bit hit and miss till the house is renovated.  I have internet access 24/7.  So I hope to be around more!  in between chasing the foxes out of my garden.  they have become something of a pain in the rear.

 

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But this house is what we wanted so we have to find a way to deter them.

 

Anyways back to this subject, coming out of a rented 1920's bungalow that was colder inside that out on even the hottest day last year.  I am thankful that the canny old folks who previously owned this house, used their grants and had all the insulations done.  that makes me really happy.  a winter which wont have Dr's visits etc.  and if the weather is going to get crazier from global warming, we need it to be snug in here.

 

We are having a multifuel stove put in soon.  Does anyone have any tips?  so they cant con me!  We were given the stove, it is a hunter hawk 3.  I think that it is a 3kw output.  Got to cover all my heating bases.  3 weeks in a rented house when the land lord and the estate agent not fixing the heating when it broke, has given me the chills about the thought of another snowy winter and no back up heat source.

Sun 29-May-11
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I make paper bricks all summer and dry them in the greenhouse for use in our wood burner over winter, they burn pretty well with not too much ash and obviously cost nothing to make. I use all our newspapers and shredded bills, as well as lots of donated stuff.

Mon 30-May-11
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How do you make them, Janet?

learning to love veg…..except celery :-O

Mon 30-May-11
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Yea, SOL is back!

Sue, you can use one of these.

I'll try that again!

Mon 30-May-11
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Thanks, TA.  So basically it's papier mache, squashed up firmly into a brick shape and left to dry.  interesting.

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Mon 30-May-11
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 DOUBLE GLAZING

  Always known that double glazing was a big loss maker although I am refering to the glass not the frames where you will save on the painting and even more on putting of the painting ie renewing windows because you had failed to paint them. (horrible job). Replacing old windows with single glazed wood will always work out cheaper as double glazed glass will fail before you get your money back ie the water will get in between the panes which means the seal has failed in about 15 years according to my neighbour (a builder). Loads of mine have already failed (no idea how old they are).

 

Terrier PAPER BLOCKS

   Did paper bricks myself but thought they were rubish are you mixing them with wood? When I burnt them on there own they produced to much ash and not enough heat. I actually think collecting pine cones is a better option (great for restarting almost out fires). Collected them in large bags (the ones you find being used to sell wood/kindling in). Plenty within 2 miles of my house and easy to carry 2 bags on my shoulders although that doesn't say much about there total heat output.

   WOOD BURNER

  My wood burner is 4.5 kilowat Scan and as I live in 2 bed small bungalow with no corridors I can use it to heat most of the house (leaving doors open). My LPG boiler is on for an hour or so every night in the winter. As I have LPG delivered to a tank I am not sure what the supplier is going to say as I ownly used about 600 litres (£260) since febuary 2010 and don't think they will be happy about that (most if not all expect a minimum of 1500 litres). In most areas wood is in fact more expensive than oil or LPG although it does matter where you live. I haven't paid for any for 2 years (in fact never paid) and have a years already stacked up. Getting free wood is a bit hit and miss retirement is the main way to find wood. I have to share with people who have transport as I used to cycle with a trailer the 3 miles there and 3 miles back...hard work. Chatting to everyone in the village has got me some free wood as well again a product of retirement.

      Now if I was to start from scratch I would have a wood burner and E7. This is far the cheapest central heating in rural (no natural gas). The radiators are far better insulated now so hold in the heat till you need it. AND better still is this  http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/.....nks.html  This allowes you to have wet radiators while still using a E7 in fact you can attach anything to it ie oil, gas, solid fuel and E7 at the same time if you wanted. This is the bees knees of systems. Look at carefully its brilliant!! jb

 

ps got my money back on the wood burner in 2 years now in profit. free has always been my favourite price!!

pps My electric prices are 6p day and 3p night £9.80 standing charge with a £63 (reward) back in June. The reward of £63 is not based on how much you use my bill is £20 a month.......doubt that deal will ever be available again. New prices 10p day and 3p night and no reward. I doubt they made a penny out of me????

Mon 30-May-11
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Sol,

Yes, used the gadget the TA linked to, they seemed fine to us, didn't mix them with anything else, we're relatively new to the log burning, but have a coal fire and have used them on that too. The main thing is, once you've bought the machine, they are free and relatively easy to make. Yes we collect pine cones for starting fires, but they burn fast so only really good to use for starting.

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