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Storage solutions
Tue 24-Aug-10
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JoannaS
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In the not so good old days or the good old days whichever way you look at it, folks used to store their fruit and veg over the winter. I was wondering if anyone knows how they used to go about this? What tricks did they used to use? How did they stop things going rotten?cheers

Tue 24-Aug-10
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I wasnt sure either so i bought a french book on gdning and it told me how to store all the veggies: which ones were you thinking of and I will look them up for you??

Tue 24-Aug-10
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You preserve anything soft or green by salting, drying, pickling or using sugar. Excluding air  in oil or canning/bottling.

Some vegetables can be preserved by hanging so the air keeps them dry enough to slow any rotting down- like onions/garlic, root veg can be buried in a clamp in a cool dark place. The cold and dark stops them thinking it is spring and shooting.

Flesh and fish can be airdried and stored. Smoking is really just another way of air drying. They can be pickled or salted before being dried/smoked.

The other way to stretch your produce , without preserving, is to plant carefully so you have  succession  cropping rather than a load all ready at once, but not many vegetables are obliging enough to have a really long cropping season! You also have to know very much more than we do now about what wild plants are growing when that are edible, even in the bleakest months of the year.

Cold is important for preservation. But freezing is relatively new- reliable mechanical freezing that is, in colder climes with reliable sub zero temperatures over winter months freezing food to preserve it is age-old.

Our ancestors would preserve what they could with whatever means they had, but inevitably their diet became very restricted in the leaner months of the year, especially before the development of more sophisticated techniques of bottling and canning and cheap sugar.

Salt and drying were the main means of preservation.

Air was excluded from preserves with a layer of animal fat or wax ( if you had it).

Honey was used in place of sugar.

Spices could work wonders at making 'off' food taste more palatable or bland foods taste more interesting.

 

Kateuk makes things at http://www.etsy.com/shop/finkstuff and sometimes she does this too http://www54paintings.blogspot.com/ and also this http://finkstuff.weebly.com/

Wed 25-Aug-10
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Cor Kate, don't you know a lot of STUFF? welldone

I'll try that again!

Wed 25-Aug-10
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Head full of it...sometimes I have to push it back in when it gets over-full.....like the airing cupboard in summer when the winter duvets get put away.....

Kateuk makes things at http://www.etsy.com/shop/finkstuff and sometimes she does this too http://www54paintings.blogspot.com/ and also this http://finkstuff.weebly.com/

Wed 25-Aug-10
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I know exactly what you mean!  big_laugh

I'll try that again!

Wed 25-Aug-10
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Jings, crivens, help ma boab !!!!!  Sometimes the things stored in my brain try to come out and I don't quite manage to push them back in and they float away into the ether to be lost forever.  You know like people's name and important bits of info.  Then I experience what I believe are called " senior moments "  doh  whistle  

 

Just as well I can still do sums eh!   big_laugh

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Wed 25-Aug-10
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Just realised this is not off thread, only about different storage solutions.  Anyone got one for my brain!!!!!!     dalek

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Thu 26-Aug-10
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What a laugh Danuta. Must get my brain back into action and get processing some of the stuff

Shelley what is recommended for keeping apples in peak condition and cabbages? I never thought cabbages could be stored but for collecting seed they are uprooted (in cold climates anyway) and put in compost over winter and stored in a cool cellear until next year when they will flower but not sure that is a practical solution for storing cabbages for eating. I know you can make sauerkraut but not sure I really want to make it.cheers

Thanks Kate for that great overview. If you ever want a trip out to Latvia for a holiday let me know we could chat for hours it seems on all sorts of topics.

Thu 26-Aug-10
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this book is good:

 

How to store your gdn produce by Piers Warren:

 

Cabbages

cut at end of autumn, remove outer leaves and store nestled in straw/ shredded paper in crates in a cool dry building, where they should be ok until spring

 

Apples

can be stored on shelves or in boxes, apart from one another either by spacing or by wrapping in paper (greaseproof is best); pick only clean unblemished ones. Late season store better.

they like air to be slightly humid so a cool, dark outhouse is good, occasionally wetting floor if necess to keep humidity up

Thu 26-Aug-10
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Oh wow! Never realised that cabbages could be kept that long. We have plenty of straw which we can bring in and dry off so that works. cheers

Our basement is definitely humid at the moment, not sure where the water is coming in confused

Thu 26-Aug-10
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We store apples individually wrapped in newspaper in cardboard boxes. P's shed is too damp so they rot more quickly, mine is too hot and not worth putting them in, my stone shed is not rodent proof--so they go in his outside loo eeek which is just right. They keep for months. This year they lasted through April, or maybe well into May. Then I started on the dried apples.

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I've been sent a couple of website links that may be of interest, apologies if you already know about them wink

 

The first is http://www.theselfsufficiencyshop.co.uk These guys have all sorts of things from wood burning stoves to foot operated washing machines. They also supply mylar bags etc for storage.

 

The second, believe it or not, is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints what_the_heck 

Their store sells only a few useful storage items etc. What they do sell though is Oxygen Absorbers. These are put into sealed bags to remove the oxygen thus prolonging shelf life. I've been looking for a supplier in the UK that doesn't charge a fortune for them and postage. This site sells small ones for £7.50 for 100 with free postage.  ok

 

Simon

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Wed 26-Sep-12
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SumpRat said:

What they do sell though is Oxygen Absorbers. These are put into sealed bags to remove the oxygen thus prolonging shelf life. 

Get the feeling that a few of these would enable Rob 12 to finish his posts....or maybe he is in one and that's the problem...life is extinct....eeekeeek

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