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Dieting again
Fri 15-Aug-14
6:29 pm
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maggenpie
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I used to be one of those annoying people who can eat what they like. In fact, I was seriously underweight and had terrible trouble trying to keep my weight up. Then I was bedbound through most of my second pregnancy. People kept feeding me cake as compensation and my metabolism changed. I gained and gained after that until I hit 10st. I did some serious dieting and dropped two stone in three months and promised myself I wouldn't put it back on. Promises, promises! I've settled at about eight and a half stone which is a bit lumpy on my small frame but comfortable. The trouble is, every winter I put on up to a stone and have to spend the summer trying to lose it. This summer stress has hit me big time and comfort eating has become the norm.

I don't want to count calories all the time and I want to eat meals that are filling and tasty. I found the solution in fat free vegan or plant based recipes. They suit my sensitive digestion (and my sensitive nature), they are usually gluten free or easy to convert and I can happily add nut milks and nut butters as I want them. I had been doing 5:2 for a while and even though I cheated and had more like 600 cals on the fast day it worked quite well - but as I said, all that has gone out the window the past month. Now I'm feeling the effects and I don't like the bloated tum, the sleepless nights, the achy joints and the lack of energy. All that will go away once I get back on track and stop eating all the empty calories.

It's comforting to know I'm not the only one but that's not helping my motivation! I start out every day with good intentions but my will power has been overpowered by my addiction to sugar and carbs. I need to pick a day to climb back on the wagon and really mean it.

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Fri 15-Aug-14
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Goodness, Ruth, if I was 8 1/2 stone I'd be anorexic!!  But then, having met you, I know how petite you are and you know that I'm quite tall and big framed.

I'm not addicted to sugar, having almost entirely cut it out since the diabetes diagnosis, but I am addicted to carbs.....particularly bread......and dairy, especially cheese.  The carbs do me far more harm than the dairy (which just bungs up my head with sinusitis and catarrh).....carbs bloat me terribly, give me chronic gut/digestion/bowel problems, joints which ache so much I feel like I'm about 80 yrs old, and elevate my blood glucose levels to the point where I display classic diabetes symptoms like raging thirst. 

As I'm typing this and reading it back I am almost in tears at the ridiculously weak-willed absolute stupidity of it.....why am I doing this to myself when I KNOW FULL WELL the harm it is doing me?

I've just had an egg and bacon bagel for tea.....lovely whilst I was eating it but already my stomach is swelling up like a balloon and I know I will be suffering through the night/tomorrow morning.

it really is time I started behaving like a grown up and took charge.....before I kill myself.  Because, to put it bluntly, if I carry on eating this sort of stuff the diabetes will kill me.

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Fri 15-Aug-14
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I could never be that light! 10 1/2 stone is the lowest I can get.

I do not have any problems with food other than eating too much of it. 5:2 works best for me too but when the world goes pear shaped I eat! I am currently trying out lots of new veggie recipes and we are both enjoying the results. Tonight we had sweet potato gratin.  I can do without chocolate for weeks then suddenly binge on it. Carbs are a problem as I love bread but can limit what I eat.

Weight is far more about the head than the scales. If it were easy to lose the flab there would be no over weight people.

At some point I will get back to fasting but for now I am trying to eat sensibly.

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Fri 15-Aug-14
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Me too Aly, I am trying to eat sensibly, but I think I need to put an electronic lock on the fridge and freezer after tea so that they don't open until breakfast time. To easy to rummage and eat some more.

 Are we having fun yet? I am!

Sat 16-Aug-14
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I was underweight as well Ruthie, for years, nothing I did would create any kind of appetite so I became thinner and thinner.  After I retired, I was not subjected to the stresses that I was under at work and I was able to relax and start to enjoy food again.  It is such a release.

I'll try that again!

Sat 16-Aug-14
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I have to say I feel very envious of those of you who are just a few pounds overweight.  And as for being a size 12......I dream about the possibility of one day maybe being a size 14 or 16!!

 

I am in no way criticising anyone who wants to lose half a stone, if you feel bad about yourself and feel you are overweight, then it matters not how many pounds it is.  But from my point of view, there's a huge chasm between being slightly overweight and being clinically obese, which is what I am.  Actually, it's probably morbidly obese.  I am approximately 5 stones overweight and the mere thought of trying to lose that much is terrifying, it seems completely insurmountable.

 

I know it's my own fault for getting this big in the first place and am not after sympathy from anyone.  I just want to say how bloody hard it is to even try to start losing such a huge amount, knowing that even if I (and others who have a similar amount to lose) stuck totally to a diet with no deviations, it would take well over a YEAR, probably nearer two, to do it. 

 

When you're as fat as I am, you inevitably get comments, jibes and stares from rude people.  We were in a motorway service station not long ago, I was going into the Ladies and passed 2 men coming out of the Gents, one of them grinned at me and I smiled back, thinking he was being friendly.....only to hear him say to his mate "that reminds me, did I tell you the joke about the fat bird?".  And again recently, I was in one of the high street boutiques generally frequented by young girls (looking for a pair of suitably flowery earrings for my sister's tropical party, as it happened) when a young woman of about 20 nudged her friend and whispered loudly "whats she doing in here, nothing will fit her!".  Comments like that undermine your confidence so much, and when it's the sort of thing you hear repeated time after time, it gets to the stage where you're almost afraid to go out.  And when you have no confidence in yourself, it makes it doubly hard to try and lose weight, you just feel you're never going to be able to do it.  So it's a vicious circle.

 

People always think that fat people just sit at home eating burgers and pizzas and slobbing out in front of the telly.  Well not everyone fits that stereotype, clearly we all have different metabolisms and some people put on weight at the drop of a hat, whilst others stay skinny whilst eating anything they like.  Fat people have to try so much harder to lose any weight, and the thought of having to lose so much weight feels like trying to climb Mount Everest.

 

Sorry for going on, but I just feel like crying. 

learning to love veg…..except celery :-O

Sat 16-Aug-14
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Sue my heart goes out to you. During the years when the children were small I was 15 1/2 stone and size 18. Then family crises set in and the stress put me at 10st and size 10. All the time I was working and raising the children I followed weight watchers and piled on the stress of worrying about my size. Since retirement I have given up dieting, gained two stone but only gone up one dress size ( working on making it two!) and feel generally there is too much emphasis on weight and size. Some of us are naturally bigger. Also just because a person is thin it does not follow they are healthy. How many women say they cannot give up smoking as they know they will gain weight? We are always hearing of superfit people who die whilst running/cycling etc.

Middle age brings weight gain no matter what we do. Certainly for women with hormonal changes. Do try to ignore ignorant people Sue, you are a beautiful person worth far more than the skinny ones who mock. My eldest daughter is very big, 6' tall and size 26. Many cruel people have told her it her weight that stops her having a baby. I get so angry on her behalf knowing it is PCOS that causes both problems. She has the full blown thing including under active thyroid. 

We do what we can to be healthy and sometimes that does not mean being stick thin. You do what you can Sue and please do not beat yourself up. For me it is important to eat clean food ethically sourced. I am often told I am the healthiest looking vegetarian anyone has seen! ie overweight! I refuse to be defined by my weight.

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Sat 16-Aug-14
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I sympathise with that Sue, although not having five stone to lose, I did have over three and a half, and it is a challenge. It took just over 9 months to do, so yes it could take a year or more to lose 5 stone. I really feel better at  my new weight and as you will have seen from my pictures, I'm now able to wear nice, "normal" clothes and can by off the peg.

Although my goal in losing weight was not initially related to my later transition, it made me feel so good, that I had the confidence then to go forward with my desires knowing that I was at a weight that I was comfortable with.

It is a day by day weight loss plan rather than a years weight loss plan, I found thinking of it that way was easier than trying to imagine it lasting a year (or as it turned out just over 9 months), but you have to be disciplined and also pragmatic in that celebrations such as "C" and birthdays etc. you will gain, but by going back immediately to the plan it soon starts to fall again.

 Are we having fun yet? I am!

Sat 16-Aug-14
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Sending you a big Hug.  Sue.big_hug

Sat 16-Aug-14
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Big big_hugbig_hugSue. You're a lovely lady and it's so wrong that you should be knocked down by the ignorance and rudeness of others. Those girls? They won't be stick thin and carefree for long, any more than we were. Perhaps we should be generous and let them enjoy it while they can. Those men? A cheap joke to bolster their standing. They wouldn't say such a thing at home, they were just conforming to their own stereotype. You have the moral high ground so hold your head up and walk on by. They should bow theirs in shame. steam

It's not about size, it's about health. That half stone I wouldn't mind disappearing? That's vanity and I know full well it's not going anywhere and is increasing pound by pound as the weeks go by. The prospect of gaining a stone this winter (because I always do - SAD hits and it's harder and harder to eat right), and the next winter and the next, that's about health. The only reason I'm only eight and a half stone is because for the past 8 years I've (usually) tried hard to eat well enough in summer to rectify the sins of winter. If I hadn't, I'd be several stones heavier by now.

It is hard work, to eat well. It's much easier to give in. Every time I get stressed I reach for comfort food - and it's so hard to stop. I've found out it's no good to 'go on a diet' and feel restricted and starved. We need a way of eating that suits us, our lives, and our health. Then try to stick to it 80% of the time. Life is too hard not to eat cake.

It doesn't help when you're faced with long lists of things you can't eat. You've got worse problems than me, Sue but I've walked around Asda in tears more than once, for the unfairness of it all. Thank heavens for the internet and the masses of gluten free, sugar free, fat free, you-name-it free recipes.

So chin up, Sue. Moan all you want! You've got plenty to moan about, for heavens sake. But be kind to yourself, please. If you and I swapped bodies what advice would you be giving me? How would you cheer me on? I know you are that sort of friend. big_hug

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Tue 26-Aug-14
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Sue I can relate to you , I am about 4 stone overweight and no matter what I do it does not go, I really envy people who can lose weight easily, the only time I have lost a substantial amount in a week ie 9lbs was when I did the week on rations, as soon as I finished it came back, even though no sugar was in sight, my normal loss is about 1pound a month.big_hugbig_hug

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Tue 26-Aug-14
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I'd forgotten about this thread (other things have been occupying my mind!), so a big thank you to everyone for all your kind words.  I've not even been attempting to diet recently.  I've got an appointment next Monday for a weigh in with the nurse......highly unlikely I will have lost anything but will still go as she can help motivate me to start again.  Would also like her to see the results of my op, seeing as she's been so helpful and encouraging about it all in the run up to it.

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Tue 26-Aug-14
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Don't even think about dieting again Sue until you are completely well, you body needs the nourishment to heal.

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Tue 26-Aug-14
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I like your thinking, Eileen laugh(and anyway, you used to be a nurse so obviously I need to heed professional advicewhistlebig_laugh).

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Yup, she is right Sue, lots of rest and good food and you will recover sooner!

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