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7:44 pm
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Sat 10-Oct-09
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As getting shot of the fridge/freezer earl next year im going to have a larder/pantry instead can knock up a small room, this would free up a lot of room in the kitchen but still give a small bedroom of 10 x 10 ft for the wee one. This is needed as will be storing some game and home grown veg . pantry 6 x 10. got some marble and slate this should help keep it cool. and a small bit for a celler.
10:08 pm
Sat 12-Aug-06
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I know that this is a great idea if you have the space, mutley. When I was a kid, we had a pantry that was a north-facing long and narrow room, maybe 12 feet by 3. The house was built in 1915 so there was no cavity or insulation. That pantry was used for many years until the frdge and freezer came along. In my time it was used as a storeroom for all manner of odds and ends, including books, You would not spend more than 10 minutes in there because it was freezing cold.
We have a very small larrder in the Cottage, facing nort east. It also houses our fridge (very small house) so the heat from the fridge makes it not very good as a cold room. I think you are right to lay down stone or marble tiles. That should help to make it cooler.
Never knowingly underfed
10:08 am
we are lucky here that we have a huge cellar; cool all year round and where I store all my produce from garden and kitchen
8:19 pm
Knowledegable
Mon 21-Sep-09
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my current larder is a very large wooden shaker cupboard that I bought in theYMCAfor £40 delivered. fab. When we move it will come with us. but I will hopefully get a built in store room or something of the sort. It will then be repurposed for a linen press/cupboard
marble or slate sounds like a good idea Danny. what a bout building a thin wooden wall and put tin foil or a cut to fit insulation mat that are sold for sliding down the back of a radiator to deflect the heat.
6:54 pm
Supreme Being
Mon 21-Sep-09
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A pantry is definitely on my list of wants for a new house, along with a bath - oh I do miss the occasional bath. Will probably also have a traditional Latvian root cellar, how they make sure it doesn't fill with water though I am not sure but I am going to find out.
9:36 pm
Knowledegable
Mon 21-Sep-09
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hey Mutley, how is it going with the building of the larder? alot of the houses I have been looking at in England, have a whole kitchen in roughly the dimensions you describe
6:51 pm
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Sat 10-Oct-09
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Have not done anything yet, just don't seem to have no time but need to get it done as the loft needs to be boared out to.
9:31 pm
Knowledegable
Mon 21-Sep-09
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in my new house, I could only hope and pray I could achieve something like this
http://picasaweb.google.com/foodstoragedeals/FoodS.....orageDeals
I think this is amazing and who ever has a pantry like this, YOU ARE MY IDOL. This is truly the best pantry/storage I have ever seen. I can only hope that I could get close.
10:11 pm
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10:20 pm
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Mon 21-Sep-09
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I dont know how I came across it but it is a house in the USA. Just a normal house and this is their storage I think in their cellar.
PB's family in Canada have something simillar, due to ice storms they had in the 90's. Always a worry they cant leave the house for a week or 2. have to keep water also incase of pipe freezes. and wet wipes for personal hygiene.
My gawd I would love that. AMAZING
10:27 pm
Sat 12-Aug-06
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mutley said:That,s a nuclear fall out bunker
Spot on, mutley.
OK, it's a fantastic storage area, but look at the vast quantity of food! Then again, maybe they are a Roman Catholic family (I am, so nobody can take offense!).
Although I would guess that our larder could feed a family of 10 for three weeks, if they could sort it out first. It does need an bit of reorganisation. 
Never knowingly underfed
10:43 pm
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Mon 21-Sep-09
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I cant wait till we can sell and move. I am mentally planning my storage. You know you can actually buy storage shelves that are sloped so that you never have to rotate your cans etc.?
http://www.shelfreliance.com/shop/listing/4
I have an organising fetish, I think. I have discount houses when looking already, because there are no areas for storage of any kind. How can you get a king sized be wardrobes and chest of drawers in a house with bedrooms, 10 x 9? where does everything go?
10:56 am
Supreme Being
Mon 21-Sep-09
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Moving is a brilliant way of downsizing SOL we have moved three times in the last 7 years and we are now living in the smallest place yet, but then again we lost three kids along the way 
. Still I am not sure I have enough room to store all that food, not along with all my stuff for art work - priorities!!!!
12:45 pm
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Mon 21-Sep-09
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Joanna, these so called more expensive 4 bed houses we are looking at are smaller than our 3 bed. We need to up-scale. I just cant find the right house...
2:09 pm
Supreme Being
Mon 21-Sep-09
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I know what you mean about the size of 4 bed houses in the UK. When we were in the US we had the opposite problem, we had that much room we were rattling around, we only had a three bed but the rooms were too big and a right waste of space and as for the stupid vaulted ceilings which are a massive waste of energy to heat for nothing. Bah! 
I like the small rooms of English houses, much more sensible when it is cold because you can shut the doors and keep the heat in a small room, I also like lots and lots of storage space, one thing we are a little short on here but I think we just need to get a bit more organised.
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